And dont let anyone tell you that lever actions are slow. Walther's new Performance Duty Pistol is ready for both concealed carry and conventional service situations. Optimum overall rifle performance is 2300 to 2400 fps with 180 gr. : .357" (except where otherwise specified in remarks). Designed to increase the range and pattern density of your favorite turkey gun. Henry Big Boy All-Weather Rifle 10 RD 357 Magnum 38 Spl 10 . This rifle will be used for S. Michigan Deer so I'm primarily looking for favorite powder and pet loads. The hammer was replaced and some work was done to help the feeding and cycling but I am still having a bolt issue. H&R and Savage both chambered the .357 Maximum in single-shot rifles or combo guns. For the more meticulous shooters and those who like to experiment with the widest variety of bullet types. .358" jacketed, .357" jacketed, and cast lead bullets, just ask them to send the barrel to me to chamber for $105 post paid to you, billed separately by me. Hard to beat real world experience which is mainly what this site consists of. The youngsters love shooting it with .38 spl. May be possible to make a single shot but it would be costly. Great deal on a 357 magnum! I prefer flatnose or roundnose designs in this velocity range because they typically demonstrate better expansion than Spitzers at the same velocity. I had only seen photos (prints?) The 357 Magnum is a highly regarded round for hunting and self-defense. Item Number: 534259137. It could even work for breech-seating. by AJMD429 Thu Jul 19, 2012 4:25 pm, Post Proof-fired it and it stood up. Given its performance for me in those cases it seems it would make an excellent powder for use in the 357 in rifles. The late Bill Ruger got interested and set his people to work. Note: A complete article about the .357 Maximum can be found on the Handgun Cartridge . Found a gunsmith who examined it, he got it working again. Welcome to the Leverguns.Com Forum. I sure like my Marlin 94c..I had my Smith do an action and trigger job on it. Put the .357 Maximum in a rifle or a single-shot pistol, and you see a new picture of this cartridge. The .357 Magnum round is pushed to greater ballistic performance (add about another 600 fps and another 500 ft-lbs of energy, give or take) as well as a wealth of ammunition choices. I have been wanting one for years now and always seem to miss the boat as they sell out quickly. The .357 Maximum was introduced into commercial production as a joint-venture by Remington Arms Company and Ruger in 1983 as a new chambering for the Ruger Blackhawk. Ammo Brief: .357 Remington Maximum - Gun Digest . The Model X in .357 magnum is super compact with an overall length of just 36.3 inches. .357 Maximum loaded with Our 200g Hollow Point gas checked to produce zero leading even at full speed. Then expand and retool , upgrade if you find its your thing. I enjoyed your article. Who knows what the future will bring and if the wife and I will one day move out of this state, but for now we have good jobs, good friends, a good church, no debt, and hope that the current angst against Newsom and the Left in general will bring about some degree of change in November. Paper patch an almost pure lead 380 to 400 gr bullet and it will do a number on an critter waaaaay out there even propelled with black powder but you have to know where your rifle shoots at what yardage. Mark Penrod is one. The rifle should be able to shoot all the standard lead .357 bullets, including the 148 gr wadcutters. The Story of my life it seems. Why? Top 5 Best .357 Magnum Lever-Action Rifles In 2023 Reviews - TheGunZone Thats what makes them lever action great. Thats what the saddle ring designs were for. Henry .357 Max single shot? | Bushcraft USA Forums Loads for .357 Magnum: (Note: These are near maximum loads, you should use 10% less to start. It lacks a top-mounted rail (you can still install one, the receiver is pre-tapped). 8,125. IMPORTANT NOTE: THROAT LENGTHS IN CUSTOM BARRELS VARY. My factory Maxi is a 1982 also. That is fast. Prefer .44 Mag to .357, but thats just me. And of course my Marlin comes back today from the warranty repair and they still havent fixed the main issue I sent it in for. Your buddys Italian .357 was probably a Chiappa. Unfortunately it caught the Remlin disease and had to be sent to the ship for some warranty work. I really want to get one in .357 mag. Subscriber Services. She relegates me to my Win 94 trapper in 45 Long ColtI guess I get by. The .357 magnum has never been irrelevant since it made its debut 80 + years ago. Factory throats are more like a forcing cone, done to keep pressures down, does zero for accuracy. Returns MUST be left with the transferring dealer. 350 Ledgend vs 357 Rem Max | Bloodydecks Not even a Rossi(saw a trick shot dude on a video whos main gun was a Rossi). Since that time, many believe that the issues stem from using light-loads consisting of 110 and 125 grain (gr.) This was a blue-collar sport that could be pursued at relatively modest cost, using handloads in a rock-bottom minimum battery of one powerful revolver. Joseph VonBenedikt is with Joel Hodgdon to talk about the improved accuracy and long-range potential of the already reliable Core-Lokt ammo line. Perfect for those states with straight wall case limits and/or overall cartridge case length limits where in most cases the .45 cal. (See note on Powders below or read all about various Powders.) Since this is a single-shot firearm, there is no potential for flame cutting, and the true potential of this cartridge is realized. Depending on how hot the load is. 357 Maximum, Everything You Need to Know! MGM Barrels TC - YouTube Then came panic buying of guns and ammo due to social unrest, and of course its a an election year. The .357 Magnum cartridge is based upon Smith & Wesson's earlier .38 Special cartridge. someguy2800, Jul 12, 2019 #7 Eagle 17 and Bfh_auto like this. The least amount of trouble would be to buy a 35 Remmington and be done with it. 357 Maximum, 44 mag, and 45 colt. 008-E503829 | MTM. Rossi 92 is one of the best purchases Ive ever made. by JerryB Thu Jul 19, 2012 3:00 pm, Post I think a lot of it is people who do not come from a hunting background and just want to look cool. I have a 94 Trapper in 357 Magnum that I rechambered to 357 Maximum. rounds much more than the .22s. Although some may not find this particular gun relevant, I think there are lots of pluses. Re: Reloading the 357 MAXIMUM. If the .35 Rem is legal where you're at, and you're wanting to build a bolt-action, I would probably go that route, as brass and ammo is much easier found than .357 Maximum brass and load data. Thanks to everyone for beginning my education about lever guns! The rifle shot better after reaming that it did before. A friend has suggested my neophyte inquiry might find assistance here: C2N14 because life is not energetic enough. 4" Barrel. That 2000 fps 357 mag load is 1100 ft-lbs of energy at the muzzle. HINT: Academy has Henry Steel Big Boys in stock today, July 29th, for $730. It is a tough call since their chamber work and mine are so, so close to the same. Dan Wesson guns had easily-replaceable barrels and came with an extra in .357 Maximum. It was introduced in 1935, and its use has since become widespread. In addition to the rapid erosion of the barrel face adjacent to the cylinder, the topstrap was being grooved by a combination of hot gas and partially burned propellant granules. It was even out of warranty and they took care of it no charge. A max charge of 27.0 grains posted roughly 1,875 fps with the Speer 180-grain .35 Remington bullet and shot under 1 MOA in my 14-inch Contender. .357 MAGnum throated long to accept .357 MAXimum published loads in MAGnum brass, (Ask about other options such as .35 Remington, .358/.356 Winchester.). But its the old Supply and demand scenario. But what if we wanted the right bullet for the occasional hyena, baboon, wallaby or racoon, say a 180-220 grain soft bullet propelled along at about 1200 feet per second? IMHO, go custom. But it didnt came from the Marlin factory that way, and it took a custom lever gunsmith a lot of work and a lot of replacement parts to get it there. Get your barrels customized early for next season! Gun Cleaning Equipment Bore Snakes Gun Cleaning Bore Guides Gun Cleaning Brushes . I bought a brandified new Ruger .357 revolver just as this lockdown crap started. The Speer Hot Cor 180 soft point shoots lights out and velocities are over 2200 fps. And a fun one! I was shocked when I found out. Such a great gun I wish theyd never discontinued them. Other brands and types of lead core handgun bullets tend to blow up and not penetrate into vital organs when driven at rifle velocities close in. Upon opening the box the gun was dirty and needed to be cleaned/oiled, not sure if the dust was from the shipping cardboard or lack of care in the shop before packing. I had owned two previously and traded them off as they were great with jacketed bullets but not lead (microgroove). Auction (145) 357 max has one of the best resale records out there. rifle velocities, rifle bullets for the .35 Rem. Best of both worlds. To get started, click the link below to visit mymagnow.com and learn how to access your digital magazine. 1 single-shot rifle in .357 Magnum, extra rifles without the CHP markings were offered through employee sales. bullets in barrels around 20. Finding ammo can be tough for any caliber these days, but if youve already got a stash of .38 and .357 for your handguns, youve already got that covered. No, the article actually shows period photos of guys wearing cross slings with clips on the end that attached to the rifle, so they could let it dangle by their legs. Wow, so many new posts on the 357 Mag rifles. Me personally I will gladly take an 1892 or 1894 in .357 instead of a black rifle.. Its a copy of the Winchester 1892 made by Miroku for Browning. MGM's .357 Maximum chamber has an excellent .358" diameter cylindrical throat, stepped down to .357" far, far superior to factory forcing cone chambers, and very similar to my throating. XTP bullet in a 357 mag. For instance, My 45-90, when I reload the 45/90 case, I only load to mid range 45/70 specs and use toilet paper to make up the case space. For sale I have a Harrington & Richardson (H&R) model 158 rifle in .357 Maximum. by Tycer Thu Jul 19, 2012 6:35 pm, Post 16.5" threaded barrel (1/2x28). The buyer should be picky. I specialize in Thompson Center barrels but also rechamber CVA, H&R, and the new Henry single shots in .357 Magnum to .357 Maximum, .350 Legend, and a number of other .35 caliber cartridges such as .35 Remington and .358/.356 Winchester. Thompson Center Contender Stainless Steel MGM 357 Maximum 12 Barrel (1:14). Give a Gift For complete guns, call Kurt Bellm at 970 433 9525. Ill just be here waiting on .357 lever guns to be relevant. Not question those who do or did so, cause theres something special about shooting a lever action. 357 max rifle load data | Graybeard Outdoors .30-30 is just a little unpleasant in it due to the light weight and stock. Guns can be fun. by BAGTIC Mon Aug 13, 2012 5:14 pm, Powered by phpBB Forum Software phpBB Limited. Second, they take ordinary .357 ammo and produce ballistics youd hardly believe. I sold my 1980s Marlin 357 in 1996 for 450 to a guy who would not buy a new Marlin with a safety button. Extremely accurate, small groupsit reminds me why I got into shooting in the first place. I haven't dismissed the idea but I'll research the best rate-of-twist for it. The 92 is a round-barrel model, with the metal bits in blued steel and the furniture in black walnut. The 357 Maximum was invented to compete in that contest (most likely?). WOW! The old Ford Pickup had that seatback that folded forward. Because of this, many hunters are realizing the potential of the cartridge for hunting medium to large game. Bare essentials. I have a MGM barrel 24" ProHunter Contour 1:14 twist which allows me to shoot 180 grain bullets and above extremely well. In an effort to keep the playing field dead level for all competitors, they rigidly adhered to the no-modification standard. In the case of multiple buyers for one item, customers will be given 24 hours to complete a transaction, after which firearms will be made available to the next buyer. Accurate Arms, Hercules, Hodgdon, Hornady, IMR, Lyman, Nosler, RCBS, Sierra and Speer. I dont have a horse ..so the ring comes off. version of the .375 supermag (1.61 in.) plus i have very bad eyes, and kinda need a scope or a red dot to shoot in a relaxed fashion. The receiver was warped slightly outward, he pressed it back into line. Zombie apocalypse? . This means you have the option to read your magazine on most popular phones and tablets. I only have a little experience with .357 SIG (a friend has a Springfield XDM in said chambering) but it seems a reasonable round. Shooter's Reference Load Data for .357 Maximum Then ordered a new 1894 with Ballard rifling, checkering, and sling studs for 350. I can probably name a couple dozen powders that will work in the .357. Not all of us have the ability for various reasons to reload. Its a great shooter, almost no recoil with any .357 or .38 load and it looks good hanging on my wall. The last time I sent a gun off for some work was a chiappa revolver 2 years ago. Bfh_auto Member Joined: Feb 23, 2016 Messages: 6,502 In single shot rifles or pistols, I would choose the max. 30.30 vs. 357mag for deer hunting | Survivalist Forum Here are the features to watch out for. Remington manufactured this impressive cartridge, and still produces new brass for handloaders on occasion. Velocities can exceed 2,000 fps in a 14-inch barrel, and that could make a hollowpoint bullet intended for .357 Magnum velocities behave like a varmint bullet. Most 350 Legend bullets have a higher sectional density which means more penetration than the .357 Magnum. The fact is, .357 lever action rifles are proven game-getters, as they are well-suited to whitetail and hog hunting in thick timber at close (r) range, inside about 150 yards. Had a lousy day in the deer blind once, in my youth. A real plain looking carbine, but the thing shoots like a dream. bullets that allow for velocities Ruger never intended. The 357 max is all that plus a bit of more power available. Big improvement in smothness. CHECK FOR EXCESS PROTRUSION OF THE CASE FROM THE END OF THE BARREL BEFORE FIRING! No joke. My standard rule for maximum pressure that I have gone by for over 35 years is to take pressures to the point where a slight crater (ridge) begins to appear around the firing pin indent, then back off to just below that point. Item Number: 534196137. 357 Maximum Brass Pistol Cases 95pcs Mixed Brass 357 Max Classified Ad (1000+), Search Full Text of Listings Pistol caliber lever action rifles do make sense for benighted states, and are also still a lot of fun for the rest of us as well. It brings the 38+p up to mid-range 357 revolver ballistics (~1250). Don't like it you can turn it quick and easy. Slip Top 50 Red Ammo Box 38 /357 Mag /357 Max /38 ACP /38 Super. |regenC|MC Set || Li Mc HIT || || LP Mc HIT ||, Antique (Pre-1899) Rifles - Flintlock Misc, Antique (Pre-1899) Rifles - Matchlock/Wheellock Misc, Century Arms International (CAI) - Rifles, Muzzleloading Modern & Replica Rifles (perc), Winchester Rifles - Modern Bolt/Auto/Single, Winchester Rifles - Pre-1899 Bolt/Single Shot, Century Arms International (CAI) - Pistols, Colt Automatic Pistols (.25, .32, & .380 cal), Colt Single Action Revolvers - Modern (22 Cal. Nice single shot rifle. .357 Maximum is a perfect starter gun for kids to learn and grow on. Its moderate recoil makes it perfect for smallish folks such as the ladies and folks with disabilities who simply can not stand the recoil of the various .45's. So far I've shot 19.0, 20.0, and 21.0 of H110 using Remington 7-1/2 primers and a 180 XTP. THE IDEAL TRAINING PLATFORM FOR KIDS. Cold hammer-forged barrel results in ultra-precise rifling that provides exceptional accuracy and longevity. Mikey Hartman, Lt. Col. Actually prefer 30-30 to any handgun round. Here in Ohio legal deer hunting rifle cartridges are straightwall cases from .357 to .50. It is easy to load moderately for closer range shots and lighter recoil. The Jelly Head Maximum utilizes an extended taper and fluted ports to tighten patterns up to 20 perc OUR STOCK NUMBER:13211 CONDITION: NEW IN THE BOX MAKE/MODEL: ROSSI..R-92 ACTION: LEVER RIFLE CALIBER: .357 MAGNUM/.38 SPECIAL BARREL: 20" CAPACITY: 12+1 FURNITURE: DARK BRAZILIA Uberti 1873 Cattleman II NM Steel 7 1/2" .357 Mag with Retractable firing pin (356550) This pistol is brand new in the box. Most reloading die manufacturers can supply this accessory for your current dies set. I have the Winchester 1892 pictured above. Firearms returned for any reason other than damage or undisclosed conditions will be subject to a 10% restocking fee. 38 wad cutters and 357 mag, I have a 357 maximum but I dont reload can I buy a box. 38 special. Pun intended. I now have the Ruger gp100-7. Slick set up that kept a rifle close to hand and out of sight. Pic is 5 shots with 21.0 gr, 3 of the 5 in 3/4" but all 5 is 1.5". Thirdly, in ordinary political/economic times .38 and .357 ammo is plentiful, ubiquitous, and affordable. Clearly, these articles (and other ones like this article) hit a receptive ear/eye in the gun buying public and they say Imma get me sumodat! and poof! 357 maximum rifle for sale on GunsAmerica. Buy a 357 maximum So if you want to shoot Max, Mag, and Specials; it is best to get a single shot. The amount of money, time and effort and the increased lever throw places a 357 Maximum lever gun so far down my list that it will never happen for me. The MAGnum case with the bullet seated out holds exactly the same charge weights as factory .350 Legend ammo, 21 to 23 gr.! Shooter's Reference Load Data for .357 Maximum .357 Maximum - Published Manufacturer Loading Data Shellholders: Lee #1 Lyman #1 RCBS #6 Recipe Type: Pistol Bullet Weight: ALL 100 gr 110 gr 125 gr 140 gr 158 gr 165 gr 170 gr 180 gr 200 gr Powder: ALL Accurate 1680 Accurate 4100 Accurate 5744 Hodgdon CFE BLK Hodgdon H110 Hodgdon Lil'Gun Loads for .357 Maximum: (Note: These are near maximum loads, you should use 10% less to start.) But they do fit nicely behind a seat. Or if you are willing to pay $1500-1,750 you get a Mikoru Japan made Winchester 92 Takedown rifle. We manufacture Partition, AccuBond, E-Tip, Ballistic Tip, Custom Competition and much more. .357 Remington Maximum | Handloader Magazine I really am not trying to get a caliber war started but, I think the .357 mag is about the perfect handgun round. This isn't your grandpa's muzzleloading system. Lots of these 'oddball' wildcats and so on can be found on, http://shootingwithhobie.blogspot.com/2 rguns.html, http://drcfirearmsoutdoors.businesscata tion-rifle, http://www.in.gov/dnr/fishwild/files/fw y_2012.pdf, It is currently Sat Mar 04, 2023 10:00 am. It is the .357 Remington Maximum. The .357 Remington Maximum was conceived primarily as an ultra-velocity, flat-trajectory silhouette cartridge. Savage 24V Series D 357 Rem Max / 20GA - Other Rifles at GunBroker.com But stoke it up and hear that little dog bark like a big dog! Id buy another Henry in a heartbeat, if my gun safe werent replete with levers already. Expecting it back today via UPS, cant wait to put some rounds in it this week. The 1894 CSBL has a 16-inch barrel, with an 8-shot tube. Show Only with Pictures Cartridge is a mite better now than 3 years ago, IMO. At least you should expect the kind of quality youd get from a Remington bolt gun in the price range. Common sense Gun Safety . for a velocity of around 1836 fps. It can shoot 38 special 357 magnum and 357 maximum. Good time to start getting ready for the next ammo drought. You can find handguns in the .357 Remington Maximum, but prices vary. The object was to knock down all five targets in two minutes. The tactikewl timmys that see all rifles as ARs are missing the point. Cloudbuster The easiest way to get a long gun in .357 Max is in a Handi Rifle and there is plenty written about them in the Max. Maybe people will wake up and smell the coffee. No more squirrel. Worried about scratching that brass? Speaking of bullets, the .357 is one of the best cast-bullet rounds ever, so add a lead pot, a mould, and a pan of lube to the kit. If you have to use a long-action gun to create a .357 Maximum, then the other easier way to get the .358" bullet going that fast, is just to use a .35 Remington chambered 'factory' levergun. The.357 Maximum, formally known as the.357 Remington Maximum or the.357 Max, is a super magnum handgun cartridge originally developed by Elgin Gates as the wildcat.357 SuperMag. .44 mag would batter my hands a bit too much these days. The .357 Maximum can be a potentially great cast bullet cartridge. The winchester representative claimed 2300 fps with a 150gr bullet out of a 20 inch barrel. 317 1 Image (s) Ruger Blackhawk .357 Maximum, 1983, 10.5-inch, great bore, 95%, layaway Gun #: 945177475 Seller: Sportsmans Legacy GA Sales: 739 $1,750.00 Full Details 1 Image (s) ROSSI R-92 LEVER RIFLE .357 MAGNUM Gun #: 942851574 Seller: Alpha Omega Services LLC $948.60 Slower burning powders will enjoy a longer barrel more than faster burning powders. Discussion forums for GunBroker.com users. The fact is, .357 lever action rifles are proven game-getters, as they are well-suited to whitetail and hog hunting in thick timber at close(r) range, inside about 150 yards. Oranges should be squeezed into juice. And has since been dropped by everyone except TC.. The Lil Gun and AA1680 are max loads from my searching tho I've seen several claim you can't get enough AA1680 in the case to overload it. 05-25-2020 . Ruger developed a Blackhawk specifically for the cartridge, but word of barrel erosion and "flame cutting" came to light quickly and production of the revolver was ceased with only about 400 produced. bullets have proven to be the best of the revolver type bullets for all applications.. handgun and rifle. The max lead . Ive wanted one for years. It was for long-range pistoleeringthe IHMSA challenge of accuracy and power at range. A 180-grain version was added, but it was also a hollowpoint. Buy in stock Contender and Encore barrels for immediate shipment or have them custom build your barrel in 4-6 weeks! I did it some years back when Indiana got new deer hunting regulations. Supply and demand. It has always had a good trigger but now it has one of those Ive fired it about 50,000 times trigger jobs and is as smooth and sweet as any trigger Ive owned. I got a 336BL a couple years ago and I have no complaints. This is especially true if you plan to hunt or compete in silhouette competitions as lighter bullets don't maintain enough energy at longer ranges. Of course, you can also get the original Winchester carbine, the Winchester 1873. by Griff Sat Jul 21, 2012 3:22 pm, Post I was looking for a 357 trapper at Dons gun in Indy in the early 90s. Im sure even more now. Location. Learn more here: http://bit.ly/1G7xXag. Theyre also legal everywhere, even states with the most draconian gun control. Also have a Winchester 1886 in 45-90, I shoot 45-70 loads in it and had no issues. The .35 Remington case is basically a .308 Winchester (but slightly narrower and shorter) with a .358" diameter bullet stuffed into it. My stance is that Lever action rifles are still very relevant in 2020, for all the reasons that people have stated. NEVER JAM BULLETS INTO THE RIFLINGS! I still have a stash of Hornady 180 grain SSP's for it. It loads long, with a cartridge overall length (COL) of 2.145 inches, well over the published max COL of 1.990 inches. Apples should be in pie. I use regular .38 Special/.357 Magnum dies to load my .357 Maximum ammo. .357 Maximum Rifle for cast bullet shooting Such a longer cartridge is a pipe dream until someone steps up and makes a longer revolver cylinder. I just checked Davidsons, my primary national wholesaler. It carries easy, at 6- lbs, with swivel studs coming standard (as does a hammer block safety) and has a large loop for fast cycling. Ha. Good thought though. *We Never share your email without your permission. The availability of molds ranging from 180 to 250 grains in both gascheck and plain-base bullets, reasonable recoil, rimmed for headspace, larger bullet to touch the next ring, there are advantages. Its sad that this is a bonus, but for many Americans it is exactly that. Suppessor equiped lever guns with Subsonic plinker ammo are a hoot to shoot. On the other hand, I own a .357 Uberti 1873 sporting Deluxe 24.5 octagonal barrel rifle and the thing is drop dead sexy, and fun to shoot. L ess than 50 rounds fired through the barrel. Another Marlin not to miss is the Model 1894 CST, which features a black pistol grip stock and stainless finish. Maybe this shortage will get more people into the handloading business. Theyre quick-handling (crazy quick), theyre accurate, and theyve got the power to take down medium-sized game out to 150 yards with the right ammo and careful rangefinding. JM Browning did design a lot of the Winchester lever action rifles. Factory triggers dont come much, if any, better than the k frames. I told them if they were so worried about reloading they can have my brass.