Complete Andy and Charlie by passing the 60. Espaol - Latinoamrica (Spanish - Latin America). Eddie, the leader of the remaining Powder Gangers, has set up his headquarters in the administration building. -Find Vault 19 and complete the quest there. The leader Pearl predicted that one day an outsider would get past the defenses of Nellis and help connect the Boomers with the rest of the world, even if "only a little." This location is ideal for player housing, particularly during. My current playthrough has that bug with the Legion. To exit the facility one must jump over the fence again using the guard tower stairs, use fast travel, or pickpocket the key from Dawes through the fence. Alternatively, you could acquire an NCR uniform to disguise yourself and try if you can then talk to Dusty or even Andy about their quests. Funny / Fallout: New Vegas Analysis Awesome Characters FanWorks Fridge Funny Headscratchers Heartwarming Laconic NightmareFuel Quotes ShoutOut TearJerker Trivia VideoGame WMG YMMV GameBreaker Haiku VideoExamples Create New They're dogs. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. I also play with an alternate start mod, so that helps. fast-traveling away from HELIOS One after activating ARCHIMEDES before the notification of NCR Infamy has time to pop up), the player character will not receive the boost/penalty until the next time one travels to that location. Once the Boomers are turned hostile via combat (even after completing Volare! Speak to Julie again about donating a certain chem after at least nine doses have been donated, resulting in her mentioning that they now have a surplus of that chem, regardless of whether more is then given, as the dialogue itself is what triggers the Fame boost (+2, maximum of +6, once all three chems are in surplus). Forever hated, lacking food, warmth, and sanity? Understaffed. If you join them it is either an early grave, or hatred by everyone (bye bye Vegas!) [3] This led to deathclaws settling into the quarry and plaguing the northern reaches of Long 15, shutting down caravan traffic to New Vegas. Unlike factions, they cannot alter a town's reputation with faction armor. I am Villified, but no matter how many of them I kill they only stay hostile so long as I'm in combat with them. Cookie Notice However, upon equipping an NCR faction armor/clothing, there is a chance reputation will reset back to neutral again. Map marker Siding with the Powder Gangers in Goodsprings will get you Shunned by the NCR. You can have minimum rep and some factions wont attack you provided you did a couple of good things for them (off the top of my head I think you can even be vilified and provided you didnt shoot anyone they'll just be really rude to you.) I Fought the LawMy Kind of TownEddie's Emissary In other words, while it is possible to move from 'Hated' to 'Sneering Punk', then 'Unpredictable', then 'Dark Hero' by doing more and more good deeds while avoiding bad ones, there is no permanent way to move from 'Hated' back to 'Neutral' or from 'Hated' to 'Idolized.' Dropping to a neutral reputation status (black on table above) will allow for Arcade being recruited as a companion again, despite his possible angered departure beforehand which caused him to leave. 1K. My game is unlucky enough to be severely bugged when it comes to the Powder Gangers so Im real weary now when it comes to something to do with my reputation in game. NCR Correctional Facility The prison has one main entrance, which is guarded by a Powder Ganger named Dawes. The combined effects of the two scales result in an overall reputation that is either positive, neutral, or negative. They are going after the wrong objective. All rights reserved. A negative reputation may result in negative attitudes by the citizens and higher prices when trading. The Brotherhood of Steel will give the player character a key to the, They will replenish an ammunition crate next to, Lucius will teach the player character the special, The Legion will also provide various items within boxes outside of, Allows the player character to convince the mercenaries in, Allows the player character to convince each camp in, Required along with a Speech of 50 to trade with. Its a bit more nuanced than that but basically if you shot them you're done, if you didn't you can bring it back. Wiping out every Powder Ganger in the facility may cause a prospector to appear here and remain indefinitely. Points are accumulated by various means. You've actually got to betray them to get that outcome. Unlike other mods that add in new races or genders to the Powder Gangers, this mod comes with fully voiced dialogue for these Femgangers that not only reacts to nearby events occurring, such as a named Ganger dying or Quarry Junction being cleared out or Hidden Valley blowing up, but also sound right at home with a criminal. BUt that was only after I had only killed the powder gangers in good springs and a 2-3 more on the way between Primm and NCRCF. Rebuilding to a neutral reputation status (black on table above) will allow for Arcade to be recruited as a companion again, despite his possible angered departure beforehand which caused him to leave. -Completed "Booted" by saving the hostages from the Legion. I killed some. Seems like it would make more sense if it could have been negotiated with NCR to let Meyers be the sheriff then Meyers could deputize the other Neutral Powder gangers as his police force. The largest post-nuclear nation state offers plenty of opportunities for good people to shine and brutal retaliation to its enemies. I thought being "shunned" toward a faction would result in them attacking me on site? The Followers respond well to charity and acting in the interests of the common wastelander. you can beam yourself inside the prison by using an outhouse inside (from outside) that you can see from the south part of the prison. He is located at Powder Ganger camp south, which is just south of the prison. Map By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Behind the scenes The NCR Correctional Facility is based on the real life location of Southern Nevada Correctional Center, an abandoned prison in Jean, Nevada. As if there's anything in this game that's not incomplete. Or alienate them. I think you can also start Come Fly With Me just by entering the REPCONN Test Site, without talking to anyone in Novac. The jail was understaffed. Both types of reputation are tracked separately, the combination of which determines one's reputation with any given faction. 2 MauiWowieOwie 1 yr. ago Also, be aware that karma is largely irrelevant in New Vegas and that it is infamy with specific factions which gets you shunned by them. Only chance probably is to use stealthboys to get to Eddie. Similarly, above the door of cell block A, a sign reads "cell block A J. I have no idea if that works, though. Lie to Heck Gunderson about who took Ted Gunderson when taking him back to Heck (+12). How do you get the key to open a set of doors in sunset sarsaparilla headquarters? During the same scenario as above, it is confirmed that he will propose a truce, in which the player character stays away from the gang outposts and the gang leaves them alone. You need to do both quests for them in order to even get a liked reputation and on the way to the prison you can't even kill the ones that attack you or you lose reputation. Negative reputation can be earned by things such as killing members of a group, being caught stealing, lying, being rude or treating people poorly, or completing quests for the opposite side. A Powder Ganger wearing a guard uniform stands by the door. You have Chet and Trudy as vendors for that part of the map. If that doesn't work, I do ghost town gunfight after the NCRCF. Warden's terminal When I was just shunned second time they did not turn hostile and I could talk to Eddie. When I want to play with the Powder Gangers, I just skip the Good springs confrontation altogether. You know, what you are talking about was actually intended to be in the game but was cut. ), So I've always sort of helped Ringo out in this mission but this time I decided to help the Powder Gangers. They can kill him without incurring the wrath of the other gang members and enter the facility. Since there really isn't anything left to do there after the battle, it couldn't hurt. For specific low-level range values for various factions, see the talk page. He helped the gangers take the town and "received rep with the gangers" which promptly disappeared. taking the prison for the NCR or holding the prison for the Powder Gangers. Turn in all 3 supply caches and pass the Science check for the irradiated supplies (+2). Thanks mate. Restoring a neutral reputation status (black on table above) will allow for Veronica being recruited as a companion again. All rights reserved. Fallout New Vegas community and everything related. Please re-enable javascript to access full functionality. Think of it as wanting to get an inside "recon" of the NCRCF before joining the NCR on an assault of the prison. There's absolutely no reason to be friendly with the Powder Gangers since their quests are pretty awful, and you don't get any decent swag. In cell block B, the Courier can find Carter, a small-time trader, who has set up shop in the cell block. Well It ried that and it didn't work, screw it I'm just going to kill them all and see if I get the good ending anyway. Hostile is different. and our Originally, any faction member could be killed without loss of reputation, though only if the player character remained [HIDDEN] or in [CAUTION] for the kill without it progressing to [DANGER]. Disguises are only available for the five big factions (Brotherhood, Legion, Khans, NCR, and Powder Gangers) and, as such, only mask the standing with those five factions. Negative reputation for all towns and factions, For an overview of the game mechanic across titles, see. What I always do is during Ghost Town Gunfight, I only kill 3 or 4 of the Powder Gangers. Fame is positive and Infamy is negative. Each action that gains Fame or Infamy is assigned a set value in the editor, which is added via script: Fame and Infamy (denoted 1 and 0 in the console) are earned by doing helpful or harmful deeds, respectively, to the faction. Specific consequences of reputation within towns include: Scripted instances of town Infamy include: Impressing the reclusive gun-toting tribe is an art. There is also a fridge, a Sunset Sarsaparilla vending machine, and a Nuka-Cola vending machine. A locked cell contains his "stash," consisting of bottle caps in an ammo container. You see, Joe Cobb is part of a larger chain-gang called "Powder Gangers" and has a smaller gang ready to attack the town of Goodsprings. I never saw much reforming around here, myself. ", Fast traveling to this location can result in a group of wild dogs spawning and attacking if the Courier does not have the. Also I tried a disguise but it didnt work. Eddie can still see through your disguise, but there's a delay between the time where he first spots you and when he aggros. Link: https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/I_Fought_the_LawFallout New Vegas I Fought the Law (Powder Ganger) Quest Walkthrough Fallout: New Vegas. (Many cops in real life are facing the same judgement too.) Posts: 3446. Doing Cooke's quests also nets fame, but no rank up. The Powder Gangers is a dead end. You could try wearing a Powder Ganger outfit, sneaking into the building Eddie is in and using a Stealth Boy (the bodyguards and Eddie see through the disguise). I've done the goodsprings side many times and still did powder gangers quests and walked freely through their territory. They disappear completely from the storyline after the opening area. This is a very simple mod, all it does is make Joe Cobb and his five Powder Ganger friends associated with the Fiends. EVE adds energy weapons to Joe Cobb's gang. [Non-game 1] Given the fact that the convicts working on the railroads were provided with high explosives in their work and were predominantly violent criminals jailed for serious crimes, this created ripe conditions for a prison break. Also im playing on the backwards compatible version for Xbox 1 so console commands arent an option. Local map Equip the armor of the faction the player character is trying to work with to reset reputation to neutral. Powder Ganger Simple: A simple t-shirt and jumpsuit combo. If loading a save is not an option, there are only 3 quests which let you gain Novac fame in order to get back to neutral or positive standing. Karma generally doesn't matter. I recently started playing new vegas(my first fallout game) and I had no idea that karma gets you shunned so I just stole most things. I think you'd still be able to do the quests for them at the NCRCF, and the Vault 19 Powder Gangers aren't affected by your reputation with them. Unless this was patched in, then no. Telling Marjorie that the player "eat[s] people, too" (-1). In both of these cases, the entrance remains locked from the inside, however. Activate the self-destruct sequence of the Hidden Valley bunker (-100). Camp Forlorn Hope morale was rebuilt fully before agreeing to stage the attack on Nelson with Major Polatli (+12). Completed the rest of the quest by wiping out, Completed the rest of the quest by wiping out Cottonwood Cove's Legion forces by dropping radioactive waste on the area (+12) (Wiping out all of the Legion forces manually, followed by dropping the radioactive waste, will not reward additional reputation. There are two things to keep track of: karma and reputation. IS there a way to stop beig vilified from the powder gangers. Once the dialogue is complete, check the Pip-Boy. Info However, after hearing his offer, choosing to ignore it will not provoke any altercation. Successfully assisted Hardin in replacing Elder McNamara as Elder of the Mojave Brotherhood of Steel with himself, and therefore did not assist McNamara in his own tasks (+4). Using their outfit with bad reputation doesn't work, the unnamed Powder Gangers leaves you alone, but the named ones (Dawes, Eddy, etc) will still turn hostile. Instead all they do is mouth off to me in dialogue. Exploring the Mojave: Southern New Vegas 44 Cottonwood Cove 45 Exploring the Mojave: Western New Vegas 46 Exploring the Mojave: From Westside to Jacobstown 47 Jacobstown 48 Finishing the Outskirts and Claiming the Remnants Power Armor 49 Freeside Old Mormon Fort 50 Atomic Wrangler 51 The Kings School of Impersonation 52 The New Vegas Strip I mean disappeared too. There are upwards of 40 empty whiskey bottles lying around in the prison yard. Powder Gangers are not good guys, you get good karma for killing them so why if you are playing a good character are you bothered that they don't like you? Once you're past that point there's very little you can do. There will be a man sitting at one of the tables named Meyers, who can play a part in the My Kind of Town questline. Also finish Lonesome road by nuking NCR and legion. Great for those who prefer to sling their dynamite than getting up close and personal. This mod only alters a single entry, the Goodsprings Powder Ganger faction, and it only alters one setting of the entry. or having Idolized reputation), they will never become friendly to the Courier again. All of these will be compatible with this mod. You can actually do all of Eddie's requests without killing anyone, so no karma issues. [Non-game 1][6] The inmates were tasked with maintaining a railroad alongside the Long 15 under military supervision, keeping the vital link between the Boneyard and New Vegas alive. Fallout: New Vegas The NCR, Mr. House, and Caesar's Legion are battling it out for control of New Vegas. Are there anyways i can earn fame with the powder gangers? Wear the Powder Ganger armor. Technical There seems to be a lot of Powder Ganger questions today. Mister Holdout will sell weapons to the player character at an inflated price. He even ask for the pardon and he want to protect primm from any harm by his frontier justice and put on the sheriff's uniform to make things cooler. Powder Ganger Rusher: An outfit fit for a psycho. Dynamite is only good with perk but for my, I prefer frag or plasma grenades. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. White Glove Society attire is special, since it masks reputations with six factions; the five mentioned above and the Society. Ask questions of Pete about Boomer history and comment negatively on each of them (-1). The only way to save Goodsprings and still be able to walk into the NCRCF is to never take part in the fight, let the townsfolk kill all gang members. I reloaded my last save which I made 2 hours ago :(. Once a high-security prison of the Republic, the facility became a fortified stronghold of the Powder Gangers, monitored by Brotherhood and NCR scouts alike. That way you keep the bonuses of both, more or less. Since I will now not be able to talk to Eddie to get to the stage where I can betray him by initiating the NCR attack, I was wondering if there is another chance to start the NCR attack on the facility. The player character may receive discounts with merchants, provoke attacks from hired thugs, or simply be treated differently. Let or help the NCR wipe out the Great Khans without persuading them to release the hostages first (+4). Though not active in game, it is included for the sake of completeness. Their biggest raid occurred on Sloan, where they stole an entire cache of dynamite used by the workers to mine Quarry Junction. I like to do the Goodsprings side personally because Doc Mitchell is the main doctor I buy meds from. I rerolled and did a not so nice guy however. New California Republic Correctional Facility, NCR Correctional Facility terminal entries, Warden's Terminal, Guard transfers to the east, Fallout: New Vegas Official Game Guide faction profiles, Fallout: New Vegas Official Game Guide Collector's Edition Tour of the Mojave Wasteland. You can always try to wear a PG outfit and sneak in that way to the prison and talk to the leader in the Admin building. Unless provoked they will not attack you yet. He is not a Powder Ganger and says he is only staying there to serve out his sentence out of respect to the NCR. One can also then prompt further dialogue questioning Ulysses why the Marked Men are comprised of both NCR and Legion soldiers working together, despite the two sides normally being enemies, to which Ulysses will talk about how their feelings of suffering and abandonment have united both in a combined hatred. Joined: Sat Jan 20, 2007 6:58 pm. However, any faction that was hostile towards the Courier will remain so, despite the change. Hey all, I'm no new player to fallout but I've had a problem crop up. Not all convicts are evil and malicious they just happen to be on the wrong side of the law, misguidance or they were setup and or given an unfair trial by corrupt and or incompetent governing. Valve Corporation. Inhabitants Always alone? What was your reputation with them at that time? You get a lot more caps if doing the Goodsprings side, 100 caps initially, 150 when you meet Ringo at Crimson Caravan. This is because the Courier's reputation with them will drop to the lowest rank possible (like Idolized to Wild Child or Liked to Soft-Hearted Devil). But yeah, doing Eddie's quests while Shunned will net you fame, but no upgrade in rank. Additionally, Powder Gangers outside of the NCR Correctional Facility and the Powder Ganger camp south would originally attack them even with a neutral reputation if the player character gets too close to one, but this has been corrected in the latest patch to the game. The New California Republic Correctional Facility (commonly abbreviated to NCR Correctional Facility or NCRCF) and known before the war as the Jean Conservancy,[Non-game 1] was an NCR prison located southeast of Goodsprings that currently acts as the main settlement of the Powder Gangers and a staging point for raiding the local area in 2281. (Note: Script for Primm reputation exists within the game, but is not used.). #2 Silverio Dec 29, 2014 @ 5:10am Thanks for the quick response. That said, the mod can still be started and finished if installed on an ongoing playthrough, with a minor hiccup if the player has already wiped out NCRCF. I did several quests with the gangers which all granted rep and then reset my rep to that same nonexistent statelost my access to powder and dynamite for not being a "good boy" despite not attacking any ganger..even those who shot at meThe longer I play this the more Im thinking the boys at Bethesda shoulda put ina few more hours. All trademarks are property of their respective owners in the US and other countries. I think with the NCR what people are saying is right: Shunned isn't enough for them to shoot on sight. They only have 2 quests to gain relation with them and if you side with Goodsprings it's really hard to even do the second one (not that doing it would make them hate you much less). Best. Compatibility Note: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising, and problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude) posts. Appearances Only "Shunned" by Powder Gangers after Ghost Town Gunfight. Arcade Gannon will refuse to be the player character's companion. Powder Gangers are members of the Powder Gangers living in the Mojave Wasteland in Fallout: New Vegas . [Non-game 1] Blasting their way out of the cellblock, they quickly overwhelmed what little NCR personnel was present at the site, killed the warden, and established their own rule. Also, assuming you care about what your reputation is with the Powder Gangers, the reputation reduction you by killing them in the quest hardly affects anything regarding the three or four quests regarding the Powder Gangers. (So they wouldn't fall off cliffs). Im not very far into the game but restarting would reset lots of progress. As part of this quest, bands of Legion assassins will attack the player at, Admiring the purity of the Legion's justice when first accepting. By far the easiest way is to load an earlier save. If any neutral (black in table above), but positive reputation holds the majority, followed by a 50, If any neutral (black in table above), but positive reputation holds the majority, the Legion will also provide various items within supply boxes outside of. [Non-game 1][7], Under the lead of Samuel Cooke, a small group of inmates gathered weapons and explosives before rebelling against the NCR staffing the facility.